Matt Henderson: Oilers and Flyers Talking Eberle? Are the Oilers and Flyers discussing Eberle? Could Giroux or Couturier+ be coming back?

Simmonds

There must be something between both teams that works. Philly has a ton of NMC / NTC which impact some moves.

Sure the Oilers could turn Eberle into Giroux. They just have to include Hall and Schultz.
Given Giroux's awful year, when he's on (which he hasn't been), he's a point-per-game player and one of the top-5 forwards in the league. The problem is, for the past 30 games or so, he hasn't been on. That said, the Flyers would be foolish to make a 1-for-1 trade, or even Eberle+random assets trade, and I'm a big Eberle fan.

Simmonds
- LeftCoaster

Sadly, Simmonds could probably somehow fetch more, and at a friendlier cap hit. For some reason, he's very highly coveted throughout the league.

I believe there is some traction to this rumor...

However, I am willing to bet my own life that a G for Eberle swap WILL NOT HAPPEN. Makes NO sense for either team. Realistically, I see one of a few trades scenarios being proposed, see below:


A) Couturier + Coburn ------> Eberle + 2nd/3rd pick

B) Schenn's + prospect X ---------> Eberle+

C) Coburn, Read, and Cousins or Laughton --------> Eberle+

This could get interesting, I'll be watching closely. Yesterday I was on about how the Oilers needed a player like Simmonds in their top six, I stand by that and say the deal (if there is in fact one) will be centred around Simmonds.

Sure the Oilers could turn Eberle into Giroux. They just have to include Hall and Schultz.
Given Giroux's awful year, when he's on (which he hasn't been), he's a point-per-game player and one of the top-5 forwards in the league. The problem is, for the past 30 games or so, he hasn't been on. That said, the Flyers would be foolish to make a 1-for-1 trade, or even Eberle+random assets trade, and I'm a big Eberle fan.
- jmatchett383

don't want giroux

Sadly, Simmonds could probably somehow fetch more, and at a friendlier cap hit. For some reason, he's very highly coveted throughout the league.
- jmatchett383

Eberle's contract isn't a bargain, but it's alright.

This could get interesting, I'll be watching closely. Yesterday I was on about how the Oilers needed a player like Simmonds in their top six, I stand by that and say the deal (if there is in fact one) will be centred around Simmonds.
- LeftCoaster

If you get the 11/12 Simmonds, you're gonna get a rock of a guy who will drive the net hard, pop in a few goals, level some bodies, and will fight if needed. If you get the 12/13 or 13/14 (to date) Simmonds, you'll get a $4+M cap penalty.

"Last we heard Claude Giroux demanded to speak to higher ups in the Flyers organization."

I have not seen this reported anywhere.

"Last we heard Claude Giroux demanded to speak to higher ups in the Flyers organization."

I have not seen this reported anywhere.
- Blackacre

Yeah me either lol... Still fun to go along with haha.

So two teams that need defense are discussing forwards? Seems short-sighted.

Please baby Jesus do NOT make this happen

don't want giroux
- deks1

Good, because there's no chance in hell of you getting him for Eberle.

So two teams that need defense are discussing forwards? Seems short-sighted.
- ImThatGuy

The Flyers defense has been fine. They can't score goals. Know what you're talking about next time.

If you get the 11/12 Simmonds, you're gonna get a rock of a guy who will drive the net hard, pop in a few goals, level some bodies, and will fight if needed. If you get the 12/13 or 13/14 (to date) Simmonds, you'll get a $4+M cap penalty.
- jmatchett383

Didn't he have a pretty good 2013 season?

Eberle's contract isn't a bargain, but it's alright.
- Jack-artist

Agreed, it's fair market value. And I can't think of a real comparison, as I think Simmonds should go for young D help, if at all.

The Flyers defense has been fine. They can't score goals. Know what you're talking about next time.
- Blackacre

Yup. Funny how EVERYONE seems to think the Flyers D has been the issue. It hasn't been, at all. It's their inability score.

I believe there is some traction to this rumor...

However, I am willing to bet my own life that a G for Eberle swap WILL NOT HAPPEN. Makes NO sense for either team. Realistically, I see one of a few trades scenarios being proposed, see below:


A) Couturier + Coburn ------> Eberle + 2nd/3rd pick

B) Schenn's + prospect X ---------> Eberle+

C) Coburn, Read, and Cousins or Laughton --------> Eberle+
- Flyers_V88

I like option "A", let's get this done.

Giroux is a force to be reckoned... Don't think of this as a great trade because we need D and goalie, not a forward, but hey, a trade like this can shake things up. I also think Giroux is a more complete player and he plays with an edge. Ebs is great but we heve too much of that.
Do it mact! I order my Giroux jersey tomorrow!


Hold on .... Maybe the oilers are asking philly to take it easy on dubey tomorrow!!!!

Didn't he have a pretty good 2013 season?
- Jack-artist

Number-wise, yes. Nick Zherdev has a good statistical season is 10/11 for the Flyers, but he was awful. Not comparing the two, just saying the stats told 1/2 of the story.

I like option "A", let's get this done.
- d-d-dangles83

lol, thanks. All obviously highly, highly theoretical, but I think there is legit traction here. Both teams are in need of some help in certain areas, so it's very possible something comes from this, who knows?

As for option A), the rationale is that Edmonton already has the offensive talent to win, they just need to tighten up defensively, and I figure Coburn and certainly Couturier would immediately address this.

The Flyers defense has been fine. They can't score goals. Know what you're talking about next time.
- Blackacre

So then why do when I talk to Philly fans they say the main areas of concerns and need is defense?

Both teams have high profile forwards. This just seesm odd to me.

Please please- dont let Eberle go... Eberle is MONEY FFS They just dont get much more clutch than that...